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Cam Dogs

Hello All,\n I have a Lumbermate III and wanted to buy the Ca m dogs that were advertised in the last \"Sawyers News\".\n I mill a lot of cedar and since this wood is light, something that would lock it in would be the answer. Other cants are heavy enough that you do not have to lock it in. I was advised by Norwood that they didnot offer this for the earlier mill. I aked if I could receive the spec's so I could adapt the one one they offerred for the 2000 to my mill. It was suppose to be included in my package with the new log wizzard that I purchased but it did not come so obviously they are reluctant to release the spec's. Can I get one of you who have purchased the Cam dogs send me some pictures with measurements. I am not happy with Norwood as I have been a good customer having bought the mill, edger and numerous accessories. In addition I have sold 2 mills and am in the process of demoing my mill and Edger to 2 other customers. I wonder how long this Message will be on display!!!!!

Robert in W. Mi.
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I had a mill like yours, i now have a LM2000 and i also have the camdogs.\n \n They were NOT designed to be used with the older mills, at least to be used like they were \"intended\" to be used. Among other things, you'd need to weld some tabs on your bunks to lock against like the new LM's have.\n \n I'm not saying it couldn't be done, i'm saying it's not as easy as just fabbing one up and have it work as it was intended to work.\n \n For liability reasons, i can see Norwoods point of view too, as they won't work as \"they\" designed them to, on the older mills, so why should they stick there neck out???\n \n Robert

LM2000 with bed extensions, Vanguard 23, optional log post, log turner, hydraulic toe boards, cam dogs, stainless bunk covers, JPT setworks

oconnorfam
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Robert,\n I have modified my Mark III using the LM 2000 Log stops and changed the log rests from hardwood to metal. I could easily weld metal stops similar to the LM 2000. I am not asking Nowood to stick their neck out by giving me the design. If they are not prepared to provide a similar mod to the older mills they should then at least provide the sawywers who have the older mills, some info so that they can, on their own, with no reprecautions back to Norwood the info so they can modify their mills accordingly. ....Terry

Norwood Mark III(13HP), Norwood Edger(13HP), Ford 2120(4WD, 40 HP), Int'l W4, Logosol 4SP, ++++

Robert in W. Mi.
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I guess you could \"expect\" that, but it's just something that doesn't happen for the most part with most companys.\n \n \"If\" you really want the camdogs, what's the problem? Order a set and make them work, don't expect Norwood or anyone else to do that for you...\n \n Dang, once you saw on a LM2000 you will see all kinds of improvements to the new design. I guess ? you could expect Norwood to work \"all\" the details out for you, on all of them....\n \n Robert

LM2000 with bed extensions, Vanguard 23, optional log post, log turner, hydraulic toe boards, cam dogs, stainless bunk covers, JPT setworks

oconnorfam
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Robert,\n I am not asking Norwood to work out all the problems with the older versions of \"their Mills\" . All I am asking is for them to provide their initial customers which helped make them the company they are today, with some in sight on how they could implement these new mod's for the LM2000 in the older mills. If it means buying what they offer for the LM 2000 then so be it with some direction then so be it. I donot think this is too much to ask. We may not have all the money you have Robert, to sell what we have and upgrade. I have only had my mill in operation 6 years. I think 6 years is a short life span for a mill. I drive a 1980 ford truck which has last me 26 years so far and is still running fine. Norwood designed and sold these mills not long ago and should stand behind them. I cna not even get parts. All I am asking is how can I get the new features for the older mills which I think they should offer. Keeping one of your early customers, I think should be paramount.

Norwood Mark III(13HP), Norwood Edger(13HP), Ford 2120(4WD, 40 HP), Int'l W4, Logosol 4SP, ++++

Robert in W. Mi.
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Hi Terry,\n \n I don't want this to sound like an argument, so i just want to comment on a few points.\n \n As i remember i paid very close to $5,000.00 for my first mill in 1996. I sold it in 2004 for $3,500.00 hundred. So, i owned it for 8 years and only took a loss of about $1,500.00... Bottom line is, i didn't have to have \"too much money\" to upgrade to the new mill... \n \n BTW, my old 1982 Chevy pickup has 200,000 miles on it, and my car is a 1992 model...\n \n Anyway, Happy Milling, \n \n Robert

LM2000 with bed extensions, Vanguard 23, optional log post, log turner, hydraulic toe boards, cam dogs, stainless bunk covers, JPT setworks

oconnorfam
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Robert,\n I am a person who does not want to be taken advantage of by big/small companies. I am prepared to pay my way and buy things that benifit me and my family to make ends meet. I will stretch things to their limit. When I see something that will save me time, effort and obviously cost, I will go for it. Thanks for your response. I travel to Tecumseh(Clinton) Michighan often. Are you located around their as if you are, I will try and arrange a rendevous......Terry

Norwood Mark III(13HP), Norwood Edger(13HP), Ford 2120(4WD, 40 HP), Int'l W4, Logosol 4SP, ++++

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