:D Hi All, hope everyone is doing well and in good health. I am getting so close to being finished with the new log arch, it's driving me crazy. Really,... I think I could walk that far. This arch will haul logs 32" X 20' long logs completely off the ground. Here are some pix. There is still some detail work to be done, example, still need to blow holes for the hitch pins in the backbone and weld some chain hooks on it in a few places and mount the winch and rigging. BTW I got the 2 speed 3200lbs. winch for $50.00 bucks regular $79.00 :o Looking for suggestions on mounting the winch, side mount or top mount? Top mont means you have to have sheaves to re-route the cable, or let it twist around the backbone. Side mount that isn't an issue. These pix really don't do it justis. It's stout!! 8)
In this pic you can see the sleeve that the backbone goes thru. It's 3' long.
In this pic you can see the markings where the holes go to set the arch at different lengths.
Hey Slabwood,
It's looking good! Mine is just about done now too. I'm trying to figure the winch placement as well. I thought I may have made mine a little too tall, but I think yours looks about the same height as mine (48" to the inside upper of the arch). I made the axles stub axles so I can remove them to lighten it up, so I can load it into the bed of the truck by myself. The "backbone" is like yours. It slides into a sleeve (2" round pipe about 40 some inches long). I made mine to extend out to haul up to 16.5" logs. I would have made it longer, but with the backbone being 1.5" round pipe, I'm not sure how well it will hold the weight. I'll know soon. My tongue is attached to a vertical upright that slides into a sleeve at the tow end of the "backbone" so I can adjust the tongue height.
Anyway, It looks like yours is coming along pretty good. I'll add some pics later on.
Bob
Somewhat like the one I made. You need to add more braces to it.
When running the cable, I had mine behind the wheels, makes the front raise up when pulling. Burn a hole about 1/4 way from the winch, mount a pulley above the hole, run cable over pulley, though hole, attach another pulley with hook and end of cable under frame. This will reduce lift by 50%.
If you don't brace it, the first time the wheels hit something will brake on top of weld.
If you are trying to keep the whole log off the ground, I would mount a winch in the rear, as long as it is not to long
The one I made will lift a 20 inch oak on the front and I just drag the other 10 to 30 feet of it.
As soon as the weather breaks, I will post a pic
HI GUYS, THEY LOOK NEAT, LOOK LIKE THEY WILL WORK GOOD ! I TRIED IT DIDNT WORK SO WELL. BENT, SNAPPED, TWISTED 3 SETS OF AXILES (STUBS). WILL TRY TO TAKE SOME PICS OF MINE TOMORROW FOR YOU TO SEE. IF YOUR PULLING LONG DISTANCES OVER ROUGH TERRAIN THE LOG IS GOING TO SWING AND BEAT U AND YOUR ARCH TO DEATH, BEEN THERE. RUN YOUR AXIL CLEAR ACROSS IN THE FORM OF A PIPE. BEFORE YOU WELD IT IN PLACE SLIDE A LARGER PIPE OVER IT TO ACT AS A ROLLER. LIFT THE LOG, BACK UP SLIGHTLY SO ITS OVER THE ROLLER AND LOWER THE LOG BACK DOWN. MOVE YOUR CHOKER BACK AND LIFT THE BACK OF THE LOG OFF THE GROUND. NOW ONLY THE BACK OF THE LOG WILL SWING AND ITS A WHOLE LOT MORE STABLE.
WoW: I cant believe bringing out a 30" x20' oak (4900 + lbs) and hitting a stump on one wheel would not tip over and disassemble that 4' high carrier//// JP :( :(
Here is how I move 24' + logs. You can move the tail arch forwood if there are sharp corners //
I'd like to think I could drive better than that JP :lol: However I will keep an eye out for that situtation and be ready to readjust for said situtation. The log doesn't have to be held at the highest position, by any means and can be skiddded for such adjustments. The arch is not complete yet.
Thanks for all your help folks. 8)
Thanks The WoodButcher
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SORRY ITS A LITTLE CRUDE LOOKING ! I USE THE LOWER ROLLER WHEN HAULING LOGS. I USE THE TOP ROLLERS WHEN PULLING WHOLE TREES THROUGH THE WOODS TO THE FIELD. I THINK I HAD ABOUT 250.00 IN THE WHOLE THING. ALL THE I BEAMS ARE FROM THE TOUNGS A DOUBLE WIDE HOME THAT A FRIEND BOUGHT NEW. THEY LEAVE THEM WITH THE HOUSE AND HE DIDNT WANT THEM. THE WINCH IS OFF A OLD INTERNATIONAL OIL FIELD WINCH TRUCK, I BOUGHT AT A AUCTION FOR $45. I GEARED IT AND ADDAPTED IT TO RUN OFF THE TRACTOR PTO. IT HOLDS ALL THE TOOLS AND SAW WHEN I HEAD TO THE WOODS. SAW, GAS, OIL, TAPE MEASURE, HATCHET, CANT HOOK, SLEDGE, WEDGES, CHOKER PROBE, EXTRA CHAINS.
That's a serious functional logging log toter you've built there L.F.
Bill
why even take logs out at 20' and 24' your not sawing them that long, cut them in half .are you trying to set a record or what???
full size wood shop,lm2000,kohlereng.ford 515 with grapple lift.chevy c70 20ft. flat bed.two 6ton trailers.two solar dryers 600bd,1100bm
I HAVE TAKEN LOGS OUT THAT LONG AND LONGER. FOR ME ITS A TIME AND DISTANCE ISSUE. I HAVE 113 ACRES, ITS A LONG WAY FROM THE "BACK 40". I WORK FULL TIME 52 MILES AWAY FROM HOME, I FARM AND I HAVE 2 KIDS AT HOME (6 AND 10) TO TAKE CARE OF. MY WIFE PASSED 3 YEARS AGO. SO WHEN TIME PERMITS I GOT TO GET ER DONE LOL.
Not trying to set any records elmo, but if my customer wants 20' beams,... I think I'm gonna need some 20' logs no???
Thanks The WoodButcher
Commit your works to the Lord, And your plans will be established. (Prov. 16:3 )
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I cut several tree at onced. It takes around 10 mins to pull one tree out of the back 40, across the bottom and up the hill. I have pulled some logs over 40'. Never know what someone wants. If a guy wants 15 footers, I will cut it at 15'4" at the sawmill. During the summer, I might have 20 to 50 trees across the ridge.
Cut what size I need, pile the remaining part of the log to the side, need that size pull it out.
No waste, almost every bit of the logs are used on the mill, if not, firewood.
YEP THATS WHAT I DO! IF YOU NEED 3 8' LOGS ITS ITS BETTER TO TAKE ONE 24' LOG. 10 MINS. IS BETTER THAN HALF AN HOUR. IT TAKES ME ABOUT THE SAME TIME OR LONGER MY PASTURE FIELD IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FARM SO I GOT GATES N SUCH.
looks like "hashhu" has some old logs laying around and the bark is about ready to fall off them. why cut that far ahead and leave them laying around, will prolly get a ton of bugs invading the logs, by the time you get around to cut them....
Your right, i've sawn quite a few 6x10 -20 footers for customers... They are a big log to put on the mill,
and the lumber and beams, because of their size, are a pain to handle too...
Robert
LM2000 with bed extensions, Vanguard 23, optional log post, log turner, hydraulic toe boards, cam dogs, stainless bunk covers, JPT setworks
I have pulled some logs out of the wood that has been there over 5 years. They where down before I bought the property back in 05. Oak logs, bugs are not a (big) problem. The outside will have some rot, maybe 2 inches around the outside. The logs in the picture are from 08 and 09. Bark might be falling off, but the log are still good. Some got rotten in them, if to bad, will go to firewood.
Never had a use for them, probley will cut them this spring for 4x4 and 6x6 post.
Pine and other wood may have bug problem, never have cut a pine or other trees like that, except for cedar.
Anyway back to moving logs. This summer going to build another log mover some-what JP has. I think it is better than the one I got now.
oak logs laying on ground for 5yrs and no bugs???not even one powder post beetle??that hard to believe.most be something in the air.
full size wood shop,lm2000,kohlereng.ford 515 with grapple lift.chevy c70 20ft. flat bed.two 6ton trailers.two solar dryers 600bd,1100bm
I believe there was a post beetle that was running out of that log, the saw blade must have gotten real close. When he left the log at full speed, he was heading north to this pile of logs.
Gee,s just what i need a redneck powder post beetle invasion!!! thanks ,if it shows up after the thaw I'll ups IT BACK TO YOU SO YOULL HAVE SOME.
full size wood shop,lm2000,kohlereng.ford 515 with grapple lift.chevy c70 20ft. flat bed.two 6ton trailers.two solar dryers 600bd,1100bm
:D Ok, here we go!!! This bad boy Rocks!!! I truely believe the good Lord had something to do with the building of this arch,.... it does things we didn't plan on and there GOOD things. :lol: For one, you can adjust the arch position on the backbone using the winch. Works either way. Another thing is, even with this log on it,... I uncoupled it from the 4x4 and it didn't fly up,.... I lifted up and it is balanced absolutely perfect. That isn't in me! I will give it to the Lord Jesus. It is just so unreal how good this thing works :lol: The rachet straps are just there to give a little guidance on it's maiden voyage, :lol: Not to support the weight of the log. The arch supports the full weight of the log. If you start putting the load on the rachet straps, it add's tongue weight. The pic with the log on the arch,... the arch is set at the 6' setting of the backbone to haul 12' logs. If the arch is moved to the end of the backbone you can haul 20' completely off the ground. I love it.
The winch is a 3200lb. 2 speed winch. Reg. $79.00 on sale $49.00 Works like a dream.
Here, it is set up with the tongue set for the 4x4.
Here, it is set up for the pickup.
All rigged up.
It works!!! :lol: 8)
Thanks The WoodButcher
Commit your works to the Lord, And your plans will be established. (Prov. 16:3 )
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This is how we do it.
And another pic of the arch and wheeler empty.
And we move some very large logs. With my dad taking a breather.
To those who fight for it, life has a flavor the protected never know.
Unknown, Khe San 1968
Stihl chainsaws, yamaha grizzly 660, LM2000 23hp briggs, lots of bumps and bruises.
That thing is perty Deeker, looks like it works great too . I have about $300 in mine. The wheels came from the mill, I'll never drag it around anymore. The biggest expence was the winch, which was on sale so that wasn't bad either. The steel was free and I had most of the rigging already. I bet they pretty much gave you , your's too, no??? Dang I forgot paint, by then I'll probably have maybe $375 in it with primer and everything. Think I'm gonna go forest green with orange lettering.
Thanks The WoodButcher
Commit your works to the Lord, And your plans will be established. (Prov. 16:3 )
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No my Log Rite Arch is not cheap. But the peace of mind, and the cheaper liability insurance is more than worth it. Not top heavy, and has wide tires...
To those who fight for it, life has a flavor the protected never know.
Unknown, Khe San 1968
Stihl chainsaws, yamaha grizzly 660, LM2000 23hp briggs, lots of bumps and bruises.
Here is one I built that is somewhat similar to the referenced logging arch. It may not be able to hold extremely heavy stuff, probably about 2000 lbs also, but it fits my needs well, and has the advantage of being light enough to position by hand in tight quarters. Total cost, about $116 for the steel and $120 for the hubs and spindles. (The tires were a set of chevy snows already mounted that I had laying around).
Alan, welcome to the forum. You like the LM2000?
As for the arch, I want another one...or two...their "fetching arch" a two man job....would be great around the mill and as a tail lift for logs over 20' long.
It is rated at 2000lbs....but it handles logs up to 26"diameter and 20' long....I know they are over 2000lbs....buy a bunch.
To those who fight for it, life has a flavor the protected never know.
Unknown, Khe San 1968
Stihl chainsaws, yamaha grizzly 660, LM2000 23hp briggs, lots of bumps and bruises.
what kind of set up do you have on a lm2000 to handle and load 4000lb. logs any way???
full size wood shop,lm2000,kohlereng.ford 515 with grapple lift.chevy c70 20ft. flat bed.two 6ton trailers.two solar dryers 600bd,1100bm
what is the freight bill to ship logs from west virginia to the west coast??do they come by truck, rail or boat???
full size wood shop,lm2000,kohlereng.ford 515 with grapple lift.chevy c70 20ft. flat bed.two 6ton trailers.two solar dryers 600bd,1100bm
YEA THATS WHAT I WAS WONDERING! BACK ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO WHEN I HAD MY OWN LOGGING BUSINESS, MY LOG TRUCK (FORD LN9000) BROKE DOWN AND I HAD TO HIRE A FRIEND WITH A GRAPPLE TO HAUL TO THE MILL FOR ME AND HE CHARGED $40.00 A THOUSAND. THAT WAS THE GOING RATE AROUND HERE. THAT WAS FOR GOING 20 MILES. HE GOT 3000' ON.
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